Posted by: Trey | May 28, 2008

So Much for a Unity Ticket

So we’ve had two straight posts about how Senator Hillary Clinton has seriously overstepped the bounds of common decency in her last desperate attempts to try and pry the Democratic nomination from Senator Obama’s hands. First she compared herself to the plight of people in Zimbabwe and then she invoked the possibility of assassination as a reason for her to stay in the race; both absurd statements for anyone to make, let alone someone seeking to be the President.

Now, being in Africa I have to listen to podcasts of shows I like to keep up with what’s going on in America. The episode of Hardball from May 22 is all about how Chris Matthews and his guest analysts are sure that Senator Clinton wants to be asked to be Vice President and would accept that position, while the May 23 episode of Countdown is all about how her terrible statement, which happened on May 23, has ruined her political career let alone any possibility of her being asked to be the Vice Presidential candidate.

Here’s what I find an interesting question to ask: how would your support for Senator Obama be affected if he put Senator Clinton on the ticket?

This is interesting to me because the argument to put her on the ticket is that she will lead her supporters to Senator Obama and bring unity to the ticket. Even after her invocation of the possibility of assassination and her ham-handed apology that followed I think politicos would argue that it doesn’t necessarily mean that she wouldn’t be politically advantageous on the ticket. They would assert that Senator Clinton could bring in the industrial and Appalachian states that Senator Obama has trouble with.

Assuming that point is true, if Senator Obama chose her as his running mate, it would be clear that he didn’t do so out of a particular fondness for her since she’s played every dirty trick in the book and admitted that she’s staying in the race in case Senator Obama, in the worst case scenario, is assassinated or, in the less tragic scenario, has a huge insurmountable scandal pop up around him. In effect, she’s rooting for tragedy of some sort to befall him, which I have to assume doesn’t endear her to Senator Obama. Thus, if he put all that aside and picked her, he would absolutely, unquestionably be doing so for political reasons. And that, in my mind, would make it impossible for me to vote for him because it is that sort of soulless political calculation that he is supposed an exception too.

My position may seem odd since just last week an Obama/Clinton ticket was supposed to be the unity ticket that would bring the Democratic Party together, but I am forced to view such a ticket, if it were to happen, as an undeniable sign that even Senator Obama cannot escapes the gravitational pull toward the black hole of political self-service. Thus, what was once considered a unity ticket would, to me, push me away from the possibility of voting for the Democratic Nominee.

So I put the question to you, how would you react to an Obama/Clinton ticket at this point?


Responses

  1. Solely because I fear McCain appointing terribly conservative judges to the Supreme Court would I vote for Obama/Clinton. No, I wouldn’t like it, but I’d still vote for them. It would be a blow to Obama’s credo to reject ‘politics’ as usual, no doubt.

  2. I just don’t see anyway that a Obama/Clinton ticket exists. With what Clinton has been doing in the last week or so, I just don’t see anyway that these two hook up and run together. I think Obama/Edwards is a much more likely ticket.

  3. I think we’re all in agreement that A) an Obama/Clinton ticket is highly unlikely and B) that if it did happened we would be pissed.

    But would it run you off vote for Obama if it happened? Jim says no, I say yes, you, jeff are the biggest Obama fan of the group so I wanted to know what your thoughts were.

    Jim, I hear you on the conservative judges thing, but I’m still not totally off the McCain lovefest of yesteryear. I mean I hear speeches where he’s ranting about craziness and think, ‘No way he really believes this bullshit.’

    Now bullshitting is politics as usual, so given the choice between that and a new brand of politics, which Obama is supposed to represent, I’ll pick the new brand. But I still think McCain is getting a bit of a raw deal and I think he is put in that position not by his own personal beliefs or positions but by the Republican Party that is around him.

    Ultimately you can’t be a Mavrick and run for President because the Parties are too important, which is why I worry about Obama because he’s trying to do just that. I hope he proves me wrong, but I worry.

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