I was watching Real Time with Bill Maher for the first time in a long time last night and he mentioned that people were arguing about President Obama’s sort of secular humanistic approach to politics as well as the supposed defeat and marginalization of Christianists (by Christianists I mean people who aren’t just Christians, they actively try to have their value set imposed or implemented by the government). He concluded that we were entering a Post-Christian America. Allegedly, this is becoming a popular little phrase, post-Christian America or society, but I’d never heard of it until Bill Maher said it. Whether I’m out of the loop or this is actually not as popular a phrase or idea was Bill would have me believe, I have a problem with this idea and I think it raises some good questions so here we go:
Is Bill Maher reading Way too much into this? He makes it out like President Obama is only religious because he couldn’t get elected if he didn’t pretend to be a church-goer. Bill’s convinced that President Obama is at least agnostic and possibly an atheist like Bill. While I wouldn’t put it past any politician to fake religion in order to get elected, I’m not buying in the case of President Obama. My impression is that the President is religious; he just knows that part of living in a diverse democracy requires that you not govern by rules that are justified by faith instead of reason.
Given that, I have to wonder what exactly is meant by “Post-Christian Society”? Does it mean a society that is, as Bill would desire, intellectually beyond the ‘silly’ tenets of a faith based morality? Or does it mean, to return to my impression of the President, that it’s a society in which people remain religious but acknowledge that diversity and multiculturalism dictate that faith cannot be legitimately used as the basis for governing because it will only garner consensus among the faithful but fail to cross those parochial boundaries? In other words, if you are Catholic and someone tells you there is a law and the reason for it is based on Islam or Buddhism or even a different brand of Christianity you won’t consent to the law and a law without general consent is invalid.
Ok, those are the two smaller points. Now here’s my main, and lengthier point. If you can’t be bothered to read this longer part that’s cool, just drop in any thoughts on the smaller points. If you can read the following one person self debate I hope you find it interesting enough to respond (even if it’s just to say, ‘Trey, you are a hell-bound idiot’). Here goes:
First of all, I think the idea that Bill is trying to make is ridiculous in the sense that even if President Obama were an atheist, which, just to be clear, I’m pretty sure he isn’t, he’s actually the political equivalent of a religious figure. The reason Bill dislike religion is that it’s based on faith and faith is necessarily improvable. It’s a little frustrating when you’re trying to argue with someone that so faithful that they go for all that Biblical inerrancy and whatnot, but it’s also kind of beautiful. I mean if you could prove God’s existence, what would be the point? The fact that you have to make a leap of faith makes it meaningful and something that I find interesting, beautiful, and valuable. However, it, in my opinion, also makes religion separate from rational pursuits. Note that while I think it’s separate, I’m not saying it is less important or less valuable than reasoned and rational pursuits.
In college I took a class called Philosophy of Science where we read this book by Ian Barbour called When Science Meets Religion. Basically the book tried to decide if religion and science were totally compatible, totally incompatible, somewhat compatible or just plain separate things. Barbour tries to argue that they are somewhat compatible but does so unconvincingly. What I took away is that religion proposes to answer the really large ‘why’ questions like “why are we here”, and science then goes about figuring out the ‘how’, as in “how did we get here” (hint: evolution). The problem is that the ‘how’ and the ‘why’ often get conflated. Overly religious people tend to think the ‘how’ is out to get the ‘why’, while overly anti-religious people insist that the ‘how’ negates the ‘why’. Furthermore, religion goes on to assert meanings whereas science is solely concerned with facts. I’d argue that this prevents productive dialogue between religion and science because they are simply asking different questions and each tends to overreact to the other. Barbour would disagree with me because he thinks a dialogue can exist between religion and science. I’ll admit that religion does initially overlap with science in the largest sense, but after that they’re pretty much just two different pursuits. Science can’t tell you how to live your life, but it can tell you how the stuff around you works whereas religion can’t explain the mechanics of things (and often incorrectly explains how things work) but can (allegedly) explain the meaning of these complicated workings.
I know that seems off topic, but the connection is that I think politics and religion are just like science and religion, two separate entities. I’m not saying that politicians can’t be religions just like it’s absurd to think that scientists can’t be religious, but I am saying that ideally politics is based solely on reason because the ability to reason is the only thing that connects people universally. We can all reason no matter what religions we subscribe too. Logic requires that we use factually proven premises to deductively or inductively arrive at conclusions that derived from the initial premise. For example: all bachelors are unmarried men is factually true and from that premise we can observe the fact that I am an unmarried male and logically concluded that I am a bachelor (If A then B, A is true, therefore B is true). Religion has to start with the presumed assumption that God exists and holds the basic tenets of your chosen religion. So it’s an ‘if A, then B’ sort of logical statement but the “A” in that series is not provable; it’s that initial leap of faith and not everyone is going to make that leap of faith or maybe they’ll make a different leap of faith. Hence, you can only justifiable assert logical arguments based on factually provable premises if you are to gain legitimate consent across a diverse society.
Getting back to Bill Maher, the point that Bill misses is that President Obama doesn’t get us closer to that ideal situation; he continues to move us further away from it. President Bush openly informed his governing decisions based on his religious beliefs, which obviously not everyone shared. What President Obama does is more covert but just as empowered by faith instead of reason. The entire Obama campaign was “Hope” and “Change We Can Believe In” and people bought that because ultimately people are suckers for the idea that tomorrow will be better. Religion promises that after all the shit of this life you get rewarded in the afterlife. Obama promised that once he was President, everything would change. In each of those two scenarios you’re going solely on faith; faith that there is an afterlife or faith that things actually can be changed. So supporters of President Bush would say, ‘well he’s right to do what he’s doing because he’s informed by his faith (which they shared)’, and supporters of President Obama say, ‘he’s right to do what he’s doing because he’s trying to implement the change we can all believe in’.
Maybe I’m too much of a cynic, but the idea that President Obama could achieve any sort of meaningful political change even if he wanted too (and let’s face, he’s not going to get rid of a lot of negative things because those negative things keep you in power and everyone, Democrat or Republican, does what it takes to stay in power) is a giant leap of faith. I mean think about all the problems we have and then tell me it is entirely rational to think that someone could fix all that crap in 4 or 8 years while dealing with a bunch of self serving politicians, bureaucrats and advisors. Isn’t it true that at the end of the day it takes a substantial leap of faith to think that President Obama is the answer to this country’s problems? Aren’t we deifying him and then using that leap of faith to justify rational arguments that follow from that presumed premise?
So isn’t the idea of a Post-Christian Society patently absurd insomuch as we’ve just replaced religious faith with a Presidential cult of personality faithfulness? Isn’t Bill deriding one non-rational justification for another, more undercover brand of non-rational justification.
President Obama nominated Judge Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court. Personally I think the only thing more disheartening to discuss than a bunch of lawyers working in politics is to discuss a bunch of lawyers working in politics arguing about which lawyer to pick for the Supreme Court.
However, Judge Sotomayor apparently made some comments that have Conservatives arguing that she views her role as a Supreme Court Justice would be to represent the Hispanic community instead of legislating objectively. I could care less about whether the Conservatives are right about Ms Sotomayor, but I think it does bring up an interesting philosophical question. Immanuel Kant wrote a whole big chapter about how ideally people will have a public and private self. In private you can believe whatever you want, but in public you are forced to interact with other people and therefore your beliefs and arguments have to guided by reason, which is something everyone in the public sphere shares.
So here’s the question, is that public v private identity even possible? Can someone like Ms Sotomayor but her Latina heritage or upbringing completely behind her when she acts a judge? John Rawls, a devoted Kantian, thought that the only way to come up with a valid social contract was to create a society that could be agreed upon behind the veil of ignorance. Behind this veil you know nothing about who you are so you would create laws that are just toward everyone. It is an excellent idea, but how feasible is it? (As an aside, I wrote a bunch of stuff about how I think Rawls is actually overrated because he ultimately contradicts himself and his theory sort of falls apart. But I’m in the minority in that opinion.)
Set up on the other side of the Rawls/Kant spectrum on this issue are Communitarians who think that you identity is wholly caught up in all these little variables that you experienced. Put simply, if you were born somewhere else or in a different time or even just had or didn’t have certain experiences; you’d be an entirely different person. The most ardent of the Communitarians believe that you are totally defined by your particular experiences and that’s called being ‘radically situated’. I tend to think that you aren’t radically situated, but your personal experiences do in fact have an impact on who you are and who you become. Therefore, Judge Sotomayor can’t be entirely objective as a judge; no one could. She would make different decisions if she’d grown up as a white man in Oklahoma.
The goal, in my opinion, is to try and be as objective as possible when operating in the public sphere. But that’s just my opinion so let me know what you think about being radically or slightly situated by your unique personal experiences and whether or not anyone can be objective and what that means for the public sphere.
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